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how'ya clifford,indymedia.org.il has been made "unavailable" to eircom =
and also a roundabout way i plotted to the site has been tracked and =
removed from the server, not before i was able to let them know what was =
happening! also another track i plotted revealed that there is a =
considerable cyber war going, instigated by israelis but taken up in =
syria with overwhelming cunning,possibly the only victory so far!=20
However these are hardly things to feel to pleased about as if servers =
in every direction start authoritarian news repression, A method that =
is powerful because of the limited financial resources of many who will =
then have to search through many different contexts to get news from =
those with their feet on the ground.
Commentator DRosenblum said "theoverwhelming majority welcomed =
withdrawal from Lebanon" - perhaps just as diseases can be triggered by =
an event that then brings a gene into play, we can begin to wonder if =
there are not similar causes to states of mind.? Supposing that the =
centuries of the diaspora culminating in World War 2 had created a DNA =
sequence - we know that during all those centuries the jews infact had =
very benign laws that enabled them to be, as it were, the good =
samaritans. However someone from Russia who had been swapped with his =
mother and father in a corn deal with usa during the cold war, told me =
that that aspect of jewish behaviour had completely vanished from new =
york. I am wondering if it is the aspect of "submission" that could =
trigger agression - I suggest this in contemplation of military states =
of mind etc. now that after a century of psychological investigation we =
see more clearly. I know of a graduate from Harvard for instance who was =
employed by the catholic church in usa to give them advice.The training =
for military life is now so bizarre that apart from a mere uniform, the =
unreality and rigour must create in the recipient - submission. In this =
modern age such a sense of submission must occur to those in orthodox or =
fundamental religions. We cannot forget that the bible was first used by =
protestant religions TO EDUCATE simple people by teaching them to READ, =
the bible was not made available to Catholics in Spain for instance =
until that fine fellow George Borrow persisted in travelling there and =
selling them (1800' s)
Secular Israelis do not want this war, that is very evident, but how can =
one get through to the minds of these aggressors who I suggest have got =
a mind-set created by an act of submission.
The monks in Ireland before the norman invasions ,1120's, did not have =
any system of punishment, the conscience only was to regulate the =
individual. Religious precincts were refuge for even the murderer; there =
is an interesting poem in my other rooms that I translated on that very =
aspect, it is short, I will get it there and quote to you another time =
for seasonal greetings! The monks in Kilkenny got very aggressive =
submitting to punishments and also having to speak French at all times =
to one another. That was how Irish catholicism began its tortured years =
of submission that was extended to the general population in many many =
cases etc.
Long winded but hopefully this debate will amplify and some of the =
philosophers have some interesting ideas. Many thanks to you for pushing =
this stone of heavy and sad realisation right up to the top of the hill, =
balancing it, and now we can look at it.Best regards, jocelyn.
How can the Essence which itself has not found the giver of Being - how =
can it be come a giver of Being?(Jami)
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>how'ya clifford,indymedia.org.il has =
been made=20
"unavailable" to eircom and also a roundabout way i plotted to the site =
has been=20
tracked and removed from the server, not before i was able to let them =
know what=20
was happening! also another track i plotted revealed that there is a=20
considerable cyber war going, instigated by israelis but taken up in =
syria with=20
overwhelming cunning,possibly the only victory so far! </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>However these are hardly things to feel =
to pleased=20
about as if servers in every direction start authoritarian news=20
repression, A method that is powerful because of the limited=20
financial resources of many who will then have to search through many =
different=20
contexts to get news from those with their feet on the =
ground.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Commentator DRosenblum said =
"theoverwhelming=20
majority welcomed withdrawal from Lebanon" - perhaps just as diseases =
can be=20
triggered by an event that then brings a gene into play, we can begin to =
wonder=20
if there are not similar causes to states of mind.? Supposing that the =
centuries=20
of the diaspora culminating in World War 2 had created a DNA sequence - =
we know=20
that during all those centuries the jews infact had very benign laws =
that=20
enabled them to be, as it were, the good samaritans. However someone =
from Russia=20
who had been swapped with his mother and father in a corn deal with usa =
during=20
the cold war, told me that that aspect of jewish behaviour had =
completely=20
vanished from new york. I am wondering if it is the aspect of =
"submission" that=20
could trigger agression - I suggest this in contemplation of military =
states of=20
mind etc. now that after a century of psychological investigation we see =
more=20
clearly. I know of a graduate from Harvard for instance who was employed =
by the=20
catholic church in usa to give them advice.The training for military =
life is now=20
so bizarre that apart from a mere uniform, the unreality and rigour must =
create=20
in the recipient - submission. In this modern age such a sense of =
submission=20
must occur to those in orthodox or fundamental religions. We cannot =
forget that=20
the bible was first used by protestant religions TO EDUCATE simple =
people by=20
teaching them to READ, the bible was not made available to Catholics in =
Spain=20
for instance until that fine fellow George Borrow persisted in =
travelling there=20
and selling them (1800' s)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Secular Israelis do not want this war, =
that is very=20
evident, but how can one get through to the minds of these aggressors =
who I=20
suggest have got a mind-set created by an act of =
submission.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The monks in Ireland before the norman =
invasions=20
,1120's, did not have any system of punishment, the conscience only was =
to=20
regulate the individual. Religious precincts were refuge for even the =
murderer;=20
there is an interesting poem in my other rooms that I translated on that =
very=20
aspect, it is short, I will get it there and quote to you another time =
for=20
seasonal greetings! The monks in Kilkenny got very aggressive submitting =
to=20
punishments and also having to speak French at all times to one another. =
That=20
was how Irish catholicism began its tortured years of submission that =
was=20
extended to the general population in many many cases etc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Long winded but hopefully this debate =
will amplify=20
and some of the philosophers have some interesting ideas. Many thanks to =
you for=20
pushing this stone of heavy and sad realisation right up to the top of =
the hill,=20
balancing it, and now we can look at it.Best regards, =
jocelyn.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>How can the Essence which itself has =
not found the=20
giver of Being - how can it be come a giver of=20
Being?(Jami)</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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