>From: Joseph Nechvatal <joseph_nechvatal@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: deleuze-guattari@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: deleuze-guattari@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: The Viractual
>Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 18:43:45 +0000
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>Dear rudeearth
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>Thank you for your interesting responses. I only wish to say that when you
>write that "the problem is one of thinking of the virtual as somehow
>prexistent (before under) or eleswhere (exterior) to actual durations" I
>again want to urge you to read Pierre Levys book "Becoming Virtual:
>Reality in the Digital Age". My feeling is that if you do you will have a
>much richer understanding of the virtual one based on Deleuzes virtual -
>but extended into the digital arena.
yes i will-although i must say i have a slight ( oh so unrecomstructed
modernist) resistence to the allpervasiveness of the digital, an admiration
and immersion in beautiful artwork is one thing thing, in everyday life,
durationally, i sometimes feel like i am spitting rocks through a
calculator! i don't want to set up a crude techno/ nature split
though-digital machines just happen to be the major tools around for many
bodies and it is not as if (i) am discrete from the tools that explicate
these states of affairs- sometimes though i question the extent, sometimes,
to which the digital is something of a sieving machine-especially when
grating cheese!
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>Concerning your last question to me: for me, as an artist, sensations most
>definitely have both volume and thickness as aesthetic consciousness
>itself does. The fundamental change in aesthetic perception engendered by
>immersion, a perception which is connected to the ideal of total-immersion
>in virtual space, identifies certain shifts in consciousness. For me, this
>understanding was achieved through a broad inquiry into the histories of
>Virtual Reality, philosophy, and the visual arts and has lead to the
>formulation of an aesthetic theory of immersive consciousness indicative of
>immersive culture.
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do you think you could say more about how sensations and aesthetic
consciousness take on volume and thickness? do you mean in the
phenemenological sense of enfleshment? would the immersive theory you
suggest apply in a non-digitized space, a dance taking place between a group
of bodies for example
>The emphasis on continuous spanning in immersive culture - which itself is
>indicative of the immersive aesthetic procedure - lends a focus to thought
>which delivers a sense of continuity over time (extentio animi), as opposed
>to readily available - and thus fixed - intellectual strategies. This is
>particularly so in that the starting point of this intellectual
>investigation is the immersive position from within: intus - a position
>which necessitates a broad-spanning focus for thought.
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could you say more about this extended continuity over time-do you mean the
actualised rhythyms of (a) historical time or historical time more
generally- how are you 'fixing' your continuity if not with reference to an
intellectual strategy that has cut it sefl out from other intellectual
strategies-what do you mean by continuous spanning- i hope you don't mind my
critical questioning -i'm trying very hard to work out where to place some
creative and political limits within some other work at the moment so this
exchange is very helpful in clarifying some issues on which i am still a
little vague
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bestwishes
rudeearth
>Warm Regards
>Joseph Nechvatal
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>home page:
http://www.nechvatal.net
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