> dear helpers,
thanks a lot, keep on discussing, i'm learning.
also, i think i found the ultimate connection: it lies in the very concept
of the peircean semiosis. the plane of immanence.
but we'll see if it holds.
i'll let you know more on my way...
anja
> yes, i understand thank. so, is there in chaosmose a definition of pathic
> subjectivity as extra discursive. the chaosmosis being open on another
> chaosmsis?? allowing for non privileged function, but pathic (
> variagating)diuscursivtity?
>> Hmm, my reading is that discurvity does not extend (the prolonged-form,
>> in-duration, territorialising) from conversation, but to conversation (if I
>> am reading your 'conversation' being that of a communication by way of
>> language, speech, linguistic-centric). An act of involution of meaning (of
>> that which is (intended to be)communicated) so it is framed in an
>> energito-spatio-temporal structure.
>>
>> Or rather discurvity is one (priveleged) form of a enunciation assemblage.
>> becoming-language?
>>
>> Hmm pseudo is working from this narrow definition of a priveleged
>> communication act. Guattari writes of intentionality and I think he is
>> suggesting that the intentionality of an enunciation assemblage can not
>> ('will' not (both in terms of intent and volition)) be contained within the
>> feedback structure of linguistic-centric discursive practice.
>>
>> Aphasy perhaps, but only as a 'pregnant pause' or as a result of the
>> subjectification-shock of a nomad-machinic enunciation that
>> deterritorialises thought.
>>
>> I don't know really, and I am not afraid to admit that... that is I am not
>> certain of my knowledge, and I don't really want to be.
>>
>> I am struggling at the moment with the desire of the Nomad? I got no clues
>> on that. For any Aussies out there I am theorising the Hoon as Nomad within
>> physical (automobilised) space and (as an analogy) for socio-cultural space
>> of modified-car cultures.
>>
>> Glen/Greg
>>
>>>>
>>>> "It is true that this pathic subjectitivity, before the subject-object
>>>> relation, continues to self-actualise through energitco-spatio-temporal
>>>> coordinates, in the world of language and through multiple mediations;
>> but
>>>> what allows us to grasp the force involved in the production of
>>>> subjectivity
>>>> is the apprehension through it of a pseudo-discurvity a detournement of
>>>> discursivity, which installs at the foundation of the subject-object
>>>> relation, in a subjective pseudo-mediation" (25-26).
>>>>
>>>> Glen.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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