From: "Brian C. Bromwell" <B.C.Bromwell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 23:19:21 PDT
I don't find _In Memoriam_ too palatable myself in terms of "enjoyment," but I think its
value lies elsewhere. What this sort of thing provides us with is an actual music as
philosophy. It's like Lou Reed's _Metal Machine Music_ which makes _In Memoriam_
look like Schubert's "Ave Maria".... What we have here is a statement, so to speak-an
actual sort of deterritorialized music, a mapping rather than a tracing. Like you, I can't sit
back and enjoy a glass of Cabernet while I listen to it, but it has value which is not geared
towards "entertainment" but quite the contrary. To make music which is "enjoyed" in the
standard sense of the word is just going back over what's been done before.
You might want to check out "Of the Refrain" in _Milles Plateaux_ if you haven't yet. It
talks about music specifically and should help to explain the existence and nature of this
new "music." Really helpful to approaching the stuff.
On Tue, 3 Jun 1997 15:04:23 +0100 Richard Scott wrote:
> From: Richard Scott <richard.scott@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 15:04:23 +0100
> Subject: Music! reply to Oeivind
> To: deleuze-guattari <deleuze-guattari@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> I'm new too so i don't know whether the "In Memorandum Gilles Deleuze" CD
> has been discussed either. I have to say i think its a very disappointing
> record, to me the music on it is incredibly flat and lifeless. Dull,
> negative bedroom computer music with little sense of the freedom, life and
> spontaniety and general sense of of affirmation that DGs work speaks for -
> gimme ornette coleman, dillinja, xennakis, james brown anyday. Trying to
> make something rhizomatic usually comes out sounding pretty shit in my
> opinion, like trying to be "free"...
> I also wonder about the marketing of it. I worked for a magazine THE WIRE
> in London and the editor ther told me that apparently delueze was "really
> into" this kind of music. I know that he said that the idea of a Mille
> Plateaux record label was a "good idea" but I can't find much in what I've
> read of his writing to support the claim... I wonder if someone somewhere
> isn't rather exaggerating his interest in this kind of music??
> I've lent my copy to a friend so i can't really engage in an extended
> critique of it now... there was actually one or two tracks that i thought
> were okay
> Nice to hear music mentioned on the list though - it is my passion and it
> is through this path - through playing the saxophone and writing a Phd on
> improvised music that led me to Delueze's work.
> Any other contributers out there interested in music, dance, lines of
> flight and rhizomes??
> > From: Xivind Idsx <h25822@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: deleuze-guattari@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: Where is...
> > Date: 03 June 1997 07:19
> > > One more try: I assumed that "Xivind Idsx" was referring to the
> > > piece, of this title, found in the "In Memoriam Gilles Deleuze" CD from
> > > the label Mille Plateaux. That essay on music is by Achim Szepanski,
> > > Deleuze--the title itself, however, is a quotation from Deleuze, the
> > > beginning of a paragraph on music, and then on certain differences
> > > between Leibniz and Whitehead with regard to the monad (or event),
> > > in Chapter 6 of "The Fold," as Paul Bains indicated.
> > Although "Xivind Idsx" might be a fine name for becoming-imperceptible,
> > actual name is Oeivind Idsoe (Norwegian letters are, of course, ignored
> > by, amongst others, the UNIX computer paradigm).
> > But thanks for making things a bit clearer. I've already ordered "The
> > from a local library, so at least I will find the *words* I am looking
> > Speaking of the Im Memoriam...-CD - I'm new on this list, so my guess is
> > this has already been discussed, but... - what does people on this list
> > about it? And are there any opinions on the Mille Plateaux label in
> > > Kelly Mink
> > /OEivind/