Re: zerozoid

Hi,

I've just been looking at Herbert Guenther's _'Meditating
Differently',_(Delhi, Motilal Banarsidass publishers, 1992). (an amazing
press). 

Guenther is one of the most knowledgeable Buddhist scholars around and he
has some interesting things to say about d/g and intensity.

Guenther argues, (p.26), during a fascinating discussion of 'the realms of
potentia and actuality', that the tibetan rDozgs-Chen texts deal with the
question of 'Being' as the immediacy of existence and experience rather than
as an abstract speculation.

He claims (p.13) that the 'stuff' of the universe (including ourselves) is
'intense matter, the matrix of intensity=0' (quoting d/g Thousand Plateaus,
p.153). 'There is nothing negative about it - there are no negative
intensities...Production of the real as an intensive magnitude starts at 0'.
(Guenther sees some similarity btwn this conception and Heidegger's
'facticity').

Guenther also claims (p.6) that Buddhist thought in general recognises the
cognitive character of any life form and that this cognitive character
(shes-pa) is, in Jung's terminology an 'unextended intensity' (Jung, 'On the
nature of the psyche', p.143) that can be experienced. Guenther then refers
to d/g's claim that this intensity allows intensities to come to pass and be
distributed over a spatium that is neither space nor in space, but a
dimension corresponding to the intensity that sets it up. 'As such it equals
Jung's 'psychic energy'. 'As the raw material of possible structures this
psychic energy is specified by the tibetan tradition as 'primary',
'ordinary', 'plain', 'unsophisticated', 'uncontrived', and 'genuine'. 

What is the point of this you may well ask! 

'Know that what is beyond the model-building activity and the model so to be
built
Does not lie within the scope of representational thought'. (Padmar Dkar-Po,
1527-92).

'Zero-intensity' is the matrix of intensity, a process structure that is
both virtual and actual and intensily intense. Guenther translates a lot of
amazing buddhist texts that speak analogical of this matrix or matricial being.

Hope none of this helps. 
Paul.

Guenther pursues some of these themes in:

1,'Matrix of mystery', 1984, Shambhala press.

2.'From reductionism to creativity, Shambhala, 1989.


. 19 (english) the suggestion that the hero of all this is
>kant...especislly in in the CRITIQUE OF PURE REASON, anticipations of
>perception sensations are always of some positive value...never
>less than zero...and the suggeston appears to be that the intensity of a pure
>intuition is zero....kant says "pure intuition = 0" (B208)....
>
>and this must be an ancestor of D+G's intensities are "...all positive in
>relationship to the zero intensity that designates the full body without
>organs" (AOe 19 (eng)....
>
>i'm not sure if this means that the BwO is very intense or not intesne at
>all.....and that is because it looks like the BwO is the direction that
>becoming-intense is heading and if that is so then desiring-intensity is
>heding to death....in roughly the way plato's desire as lack is heading
>towards death...desire desiring the cessation of desire.....
>
>but the BwO is meant to contest that platonic conception of desire...so i
>don't quite know where i've gone wrong....perhaps the BwO in AOe isn't the
>same as the BwO in 1000 P's
>
>gordon
>
>>Can someone begin to explain the significance of zero(s) and one(s),
>nihilism and Monotheism, sero intensoty, sorry intensity and desire and
>how all of these couple up with each other. Yours in turmopil, Johnny B.
>>
>>P.s Can anyone direct me to sources which explore zero intensity and so on?
>>
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