Warmachine,
well thanks for your gush of sentiment and abstractions - as well as
your curious idea that western countries have some a "right" to decide
what is best for every person/country and to enfore that with military
action.
funnily enough, despite your calls for NATO/America/Europe to act and
your desire for heroic for world war II style action, the countries you
talk about have a long record of acting to interfere with others... you
seem to be suffering from the idea that you are on the side of the
"goodies" and therefore those targeted by your government as "baddies"
are really "evil maniacs". political rhetoric and media coverage are not
a particularly accurate index of reality.
now we have to call it "ethnic cleansing" because we can't recognise it
as what it really is: war. not the hollywood war, or the war people like
to fantasise about, but real war - war is always genocide. Neither
America nor the European countries bombing Serbia have any place to
criticise genocide , barbarity, or unprovoked miltary action. the
democracy you invoke and desire for serbia is the system which has more
blood on its hands than any other. the west talks a rhetoric of
peacemaking, but the history books tell a different story. the west has
been built on genocide and exploitation, an unprecendented destruction
and violence: colonisation, trade, slavery... a holocaust that beggars
even the horror of Nazi concetration camps. why America in particular is
so convinced that the rest of the world owes it undying gratitude /
loves its shitty consumer culture and products has always escaped me.
you want to join the army? you want to join in the slaughter? you think
that you killing someone you think is "evil" is justified, would be a
"good action", but that the serbs killing ethnic albanian's is a "bad
action"?? - but either way, people die.
people die...
maybe serbians dying as a result of NATO action will save the lives in
kosovo - but will that mean fewer people die, or do we just have to
wonder who NATO will kill instead, to make up the numbers? who will be
the next "enemy" - the next "maniac" suddenly discovered to draw fire
from domestic political difficulties, to sell papers, to sell tv
advertising?
I share your horror at the events unfolding in serbia and countless
other parts of the world; but talking of maniacs, evil, and monsters
does not help us, or those suffering directly. Such talk is, and always
has been, a political/religious rhetoric which acts as a
self-justification.
best wishes,
dan
WarMachIne wrote:
>
> Whatis really terrible is that Europe waited so long to do
> something about this monster in Serbia. As thousands pour away fromtheir
> homes and the potential extermination. One terrible image which I just
> saw on thenwews reminded me of the holocaust. A train was let into
> Serbia. It was filled with refugees from Kosovo. They were let in to
> Macedonia for a few minutes; it was surrounded by their police army and
> sealed off. One woman came to give them the refugees a bottle of water.
> Then the same refugees were sent back to Kosovo where the Serbian
> soldiers arekilling . I watched this a few minutes ago on the news. itwas
> awful chilling andbrought tears to my eyes. I wish I could go an join
> the soldiers and fight these evil bastards who are killing innocent
> people in the thousands. Humanity is a maniac. It ishas been this way for
> so long that Europe is afraid to stand up and fight these maniacs. Europe
> and America have become so afraid to stand up and fight and lose soldiers
> that soldiers dont have meaning anylonger. That civilians and millions
> more will die again and again before jets go and bomb. This serbian is a
> maniac. The world, well, what does one say about the world. I only hope an
> pray that Europe Nato and America get the courage, and my own country too
> to go there with ground troops and beat this bastard out and all his
> gangster armies and police terrorist squads and for once make some
> semblance of democracy there. Make an example that the west is not
> tottally absent of courage and not afraid to lose lives -- soldiers,
> military men and women too if they want, to prove that it is worth while
> to live and To die too,, yes, for something important to die for life and
> to fight for life to save the thousands of innocents and to make a
> meaning of our words and countries or else everything is a joke and
> meaningless and that when the time comes when they willbe "ethnically
> cleansed" No soldiers will come to help them and save them from the
> murderers and massacrers . Because if we dont take action then we are
> all victims and we will we all be gravy for the maniacs when they come to
> our houses and cities and villages.
>
> And I include my own country in this. I say we have all waited too long
> for the maniac in Serbia like we have waited and continue to wait for the
> others. Like Pinochet. What acomprise is politics we all know. However
> how long does one compomise before the thousands and perhaps the millions
> will be massacred and slaughtered? What I think is this: Give a few days
> and send thousands of air-borne parachuting men there , like world war 2
> and fight this serbian army directly and punish them for doing what they
> are doing to thousands and thousnads of men women and children. Sometimes
> a line must be drawn to make justice work. If not,, then we too,, all of
> us perhaps will be one day be abandoned as some other gangsters come to
> kill us all and our cities and villages. the world the world is filled
> with injustices, but must Europeans and Americans keep sitting still and
> waiting until it is too late before taking action??
> I saw the photos of serbian peoples smashing stores of american
> businesses in Belgrade. They are fools. It is themselves they smash.
> theyshowed them having rock and roll concerts saying We are Victims...
> yes, no doubt some are. yes, they are the victims of their own smug
> passive fascism. Theyhave brought this on themselves. And they are only
> lucky yet that no war no great war has begun again to make them really
> suffer as others are suffering. I hate war, andI hate violence. But you
> know when I see what is happening yes, my heart is outraged and I wish we
> could make war against those evil people who hate and kill anyone who is
> not like them.
> the world was made, if indeed it was made, it is here for
> everyone. and until we all learn that lesson, then we will keep on killing
> and slaughtering each other until the end of the world. In Sudan I
> hear of other terrible atrocities goiing on. This planet is a
> slaughterhouse and we need courage to change it.
> Maybe I
> will join the army. No, I cant I am too 'old' but perhaps I will go and
> start working for justice again in some way. somewhere. Here int he city.
> How to spread love and some understanding amongst us human beings who are
> iosick with memories of hatreds that go back centuries. We need to change
> our memories and learn new ones. Last night I did a class I was presenting
> about a poet who died at 26 in WW1. It was quite a war that one. All war
> is terrible. 'A terrible beauty is born' wrote the Irish poet Yeats on
> Easter of 1916 during the uprising that made Ireland the country it was to
> become free of England. yet that war is not over yet.
> Maybe if humanity could not see war would end.
> Be safe and love humanity in every way possible. It needs our love and
> outrage and justice.
>
> Maybe. But how do love and war cross? Cross the currents of death
> and love. Hundreds of thousands on the move.
>
> What it to old to die, if there is nothing left to believe in,
> nothing left to live for, and die for?
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