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From: Lebbeus Woods <medo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 23:18:10 -0500
Responding to msg by WAYDE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Wayde Justin
Tardif) on
Wayde,
As with Michael Kaplan (and David Sucher), I'm not giving HRH
so easy a way to be excused from his choices as you imply.
Sure, he was 'shaped by his environment,' as were we all. That
may help us understand his choices, but it doesn't confer upon
them any claim to immunity.
My simple point (stating it again) is that he has the right
and, more importantly, the ability to choose (or create) the
conext for his thoughts and actions. The context he has chosen
is what you characterize as 'post-Imperialist.' So let's call
it for what it is, especially when discussing
his supposed attempts to save the English landscape, or any
other matters architectural.
Can we somehow get beyond this point now?
How about getting back to Sucher's claim that there is no
better system than land speculation for shaping cities and
other landscapes.
Really?
Lebbeus
>L>Woods writes:
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>>First of all, Charles lives in the same world that the
>rest of
>>us do and can see, at least as well as we do, exactly
>what's
>>going on.
>
> The "us" you must be talking about must be
>based upon some criteria unfamiliar to me and probably
>most of the other list folk 'lurking' around here. To
>say Prince Charles lives in the same world as the rest
>of us is ludicrous(sp?). While he does live on this
>earth (doesn't he?), his environment has been shaped
>by factors which in turn shape his thinking and
>reaction to our environment and the factors which
>influence it. His ability to comprehend situations
>beyond the scope of his world of a post-yet-hopeful
>British Imperialism induced psychosis is limited by
>these factors. Too, his descriptions of design of what
>*should be*, described in terms with
>words like "quaint," and "little village," is pretty
>thin and not grounded in what Chuck himself refers to
>as *fact*. His leanings toward postmodernists like L.
>Krier, D+PZ and Jencks et al, and an architecture of
>metaphor in new & *old* development and
>revitalization efforts shows this. Like the throne
>which he is to inherit, Chuck's view of the world of
>architecture is about perception and implied meaning
>not really what is, but what he sees as what *should
>be*.
>
>Wayde