Re: Breathless

spN: "terminal identities."  If it becomes a nuisance, I can pull them out.  I
>>>miss the discussions, rants and flamers.
>>
>>Seonaidh Davenport
>>I don't mean to be rude, but I find it extraordinarily condescending that
>>you feel like you can "allow them" to get on and join the group, to be
>>pulled off by you if necessary. The whole idea is free discussion and it's
>>a wretched idea to view Design-L as a classroom for them to participate or
>>not at you whim. Just let them jump in!
>>
>rmm:
>au contraire--I think it is a great idea.  SPN: they should feel free to
>contact me however they wish...and how you run your classes is your call.
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spN: Seonaidh, first of all, I don't know what you mean in saying I am
allowing them... none had ever even heard of design-l or a list for that
matter.  I am teaching them computer-design and not internet class so I
also did not want to saturate them with work too far afield of the work we
do have to cover. I also was mostly afraid not to glut the mailboxes of
those on this list.  A few months back, there was a large discussion about
the data capacity of those who download their mail from commercial servers
and I have never thought of this list the same way since.  In your utopian
schema (a worthy one) of free and endless discourse, you might be
forgetting the technical limits of our humble e-list.

So, I qualify my statement with those concerns. They are certainly free now
that they are brought to the net. However, I do consider their
participation as an extension of my course and I will be commenting on
their ideas (in class).  I am hoping this will help them develop ideas
their understanding of architecture by having to argue for them if
challenged.  It is an assumption on my part to use design-l as an extension
of my classroom and I want to make it clear that I am ready to withdraw
that attempt if anything (mostly technically related) were to occur.  So
again, I disagree if you are arguing that the net is some kind of free
space for limitless discourse.  Being on this list has taught me that it is
moreso a scene for confrontation, slippage and distortion in the midst of
occasional constructive exchange.

Finally, do you think it might be considered a form of violence to impose
upon such a rhizomatic space, one assumptions about democratic exchange or
accessibility?