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+  From: Randolph Fritz <randolph@xxxxxxxxxx>
+  Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 19:58:07 -0700
John Young writes:
> [Professor Alexander's forfeit is to:]
>
> Once again Tom Alexander claims to remark a contrast between
> Peirce and Dewey on the aesthetics/science relationship and
> once again I fail to find any substantive distinction being
> drawn, and in its place only literary flourish. Tom has in
> the past taken such a criticism as being of the nature of a
> personal insult. Perhaps he will this time explain precisely
> why it is supposed to be of that character. Here is what I
> find problematic in his approach: that at the crucial point
> where we might find a geniune
> philosophical opposition to be explored, there is nothing one
> can actually get one's teeth into (pardon the mixed metaphor).
> I regard this as a legitimate critical consideration. I
> could of course be wrong.
>

It's interesting...my personal reaction to the above is a weary sigh
and...doesn't this guy know how to ask questions or is he just trying
to avoid saying he doesn't understand and...couldn't this be concisely
summarized as, "Tom, I don't understand the distinction you're drawing
between Pierce and Dewey. It seems to me they are similar because
[insert omitted reason here]. What am I missing?"

While it doesn't seem like much of a flame to me (I have endured
repeatedly being called "shit-for-brains, "moron," and various other
nasty names) it doesn't sound pleasant, either.

I suppose my reaction is almost aesthetic--why brawl when we could be
dancing? And why so many brawls, anyway--what are we so angry about?
By the way, I'm not reacting to you, John, in that way; I find your
writing provocative in a communicative way. That, alas, isn't most
flames, which seem to me indicative of difficulties in communication
and, sometimes, active obstruction. Then there is outright
intimidation; one never is quite sure if verbal abuse may be followed
by physical force--I have quit at least one discussion because of a
concern with potential violence.

John, why is this your issue? Have you come under fire for flaming?

Randolph

(Only look up the definition and pronounciation of "bransle." :-)
 
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