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Would someone here happen to know of any exchange programs for an
architecture student to study in Sweden? Any suggestions, advice would be
helpful. Thank you.

- Ryan Emge

>> Patrick,
>>
>> Regarding civic involvement I'll try to answer this way. When reading about
>> the ancient Roman Triumphs, it is always noted that the whole city shut
>> down, and all the population went to stand along the route of the Triumph
>> parade to watch. I was initially skeptical of this, especially the
notion of
>> a whole city shutting down, and everyone going to see a single event. Maybe
>> it did happen then, but it seemed hard to believe that something like that
>> could happen in modern times. Diana's funeral changed my 'perception' of
>> this.
>>
>> [Yes, as I write this, I realize that there are indeed several such
>> occassions to be noted in modern time, the JFK funeral for example.)
>
>and many others. not only for burials.
>>
>> Quickly, the other details reenacted are:
>> -- Diana's coffin drove through several arches, one of which was indeed a
>> Triumphal arch.
>> -- four real Princes accompanied the procession.
>> -- the 'spoils' of Diana's work were present in all the representitives of
>> her charities that walked in the procession behind the Princes.
>> -- the route of the coffin passed numerous military monuments, of whcih at
>> least one represented a tableau of soldiers, much like the battle
>> tableax(sp?) that were part of the ancient Triumph parade (the precursor
I'm
>> sure of today's parade floats).
>> -- the procession ended at Westminster Abbey, what one can easily refer to
>> as the most sacred place in London; the ancient Triumph ended at the Temple
>> of Jupitur, the most sacred place in ancient Rome.
>>
>So such precisions "éclairent ma lanterne". But a still critical answer
>would be that those are mere coincidences. Many other possible reenactments
>of Roman triumphs were not detailed or even esquissed in the Diana funeral.
>And the triumphal ticket parades in NewYork are of the same kind.
> But certainly there is not the important point.
>I remember , personnally, such event as effectively a rare event with
>"grande pompe et parade". Probably an occasion when a world of illusion
>seemed to be reenacted in a kind of mediatic eerie. Few could actually
>believe then that such symbol, already destructed by the voracious quest of
>public scrutiny into his private life was really/royally lying in state.
>
>
>> As I'm writing this I'm reminded of the movie A SPECIAL DAY (I think that's
>> the title). It starred M. Mastrioni and S. Loren, and the day was in Rome
>> when Hilter came to visit Musolini (two grim reenacters if there ever were
>> any). All of Rome went to see the parade, and Mastrioni and Loren found
>> themselves to be the only people in their apartment building, and the story
>> of the movie goes on from there.
>I also saw such, and I try to remember now why those two were not at the
>reenactment.
>Mastro I think for some "deviance" (?) but Sophia ?
>I remember better the presence of the sound.  music. triumphant. and the
>crowd , cheering. and some speeches, orchestrated.
>

>Btw one ( hitler) was also the reenactment of the other. Musso. This one was
>probably the first real roman re-triumphalist, reinventing many "details" as
>the fascism from the fascio... but he failed completely in trying to give to
>his Italian country a sense of old roman military glory, excepted with the
>destruction of Abyssinia, endorsed by a "Société des Nations" mother of a
>similar ineffective peacekeeping ONU. (Slobodan Milosevitch was not exactly
>Musso or HItler,but...)
>
>>Maybe when you see something in a movie it
>> still feels just a bit unreal, just a play reenactment.
>
>let me stop here: what is real in a movie ?(not a documentary,of course) , I
>mean what's real of the final impact when seeing it ?) : the impression left
>in the spectator's mind ? Is such a real impact?
>
>> Maybe what struck me
>> so much about Diana's funeral is that it was just like a movie, but indeed
>> real.
>I just said before the illusion of similar event.
>The impact caused by the media on the faraway spectators.
>For the Londonian bystanders the anxious expectation of a last scrutiny over
>the kind of getaway to his last private place, on  sept 6, 1997. throwing
>some flowers.
>The driver of the carosse stayed impassible. From time to time he had to
>clear the front window to stay on the road.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> ps
>> John Young just coined the term "exenactments". I wonder if some events
that
>> immediately remind one of a movie but are indeed real could be called
>> exenactments. Events like September 11 maybe?
>
>Do you mean 9/11 was eventually inspired to his authors(?) by let's say The
>Independance Day ? I read some papers about such theory.
>Some years ago kids were killed after repeating a deadly video game/play
>when walking in the middle of some heavy traffic.
>
>If the movie is based on real events,and a later event repeats such, the
>later could be named so, or meaby just a remake. Remake or reenactment
>sounds the same...
>But generally events never repeat themselves in so an exact manner and
>therefore we derived the generally consensed phrase about the non-repetition
>of history.
>?¼?
>