interesting comments. alas, my ubiquitousness will be no more. Good luck sir.
At 10:49 PM 1/30/97 GMT, you wrote:
>Michael Troth interestingly pondering the ubiquitous Robert T. Guevara's
>stuff concerning his (having (feelings of) or being) frustrated recently
>helped me to ponder what is basically the same/different in being/having in
>the example:
>
>(1) The engineer is (feeling) frustrated.
>(2) The engineer has (feelings of) frustration.
>(3) The engineer is in the manner of being-frustrated, is frustrated-being.
>
>In many respects of everyday usage, (1) & (2) say the same. But (3) can be
>distinguished from both in that feeling frustrated or having feelings of
>frustration do not involve total subjection to frustration whereas being in
>the manner of frustrated-being is being 'had' by frustration, a sort of
>opposite of 'having' (feelings of) frustration. *Both* ((1)&(2)) & (3)
>involve *both* having and being: (1) says 'The engineer *is* frustrated.'
>and 'The engineer *has* (feelings of) frustration.' (which is (2)); (3)
>says ' The engineer *is* frustrated-being.' and 'Frustrated-being *has* the
>engineer.'
>
>I do not think this example can properly elucidate the difference between
>having and being without moving with-out, without moving a way from the
>grammatical and ordinary-linguistic context of the spoken. What way that is
>away from this context can provide the needed grounding for this
>difference? We need a way that moves with out the linguistic (but per haps
>in language), that *says* being and having and says their difference.
>Interesting though the speech concerning the notion of 'property' is as a
>concrete/ontical ground to being/having I am not sure that 'property' hits
>the ontological mark.
>
>Any thoughts on the path we must tread?
>
>MP
>
>
>
>"Man is something that must be overcome" Nietzsche
>M the Pbrain
>snail: 38 Sandown Lees, Sandwich, Kent CT13 9NZ, UK
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