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+  From: Rene de Bakker <rbakker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
+  Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 17:28:40 +0100
At 02:50 6-3-00 +0100, Jan Straathof wrote:


>but if "Being *is* not some-thing" [that could be "brought
>before"] it cannot be finite, because only things [that thing]
>can come and go, can arise and cease, i.e. have the faculty
>if finiteness.
>
>If Being is finite, it must be some-thing, e.g. a being among
>other beings --- but this would be incoherent, because no
>such can exists that is both "some-thing" and "not some-thing".

Jan,

Why should this 2-valued logic apply? It didn't apply for Hegel,
to whom contradiction meant the beginning of his logic. And already
Descartes bracketed logic in his radical doubt, together with
mathematics. There could be a malign genius behind it.

>>2. Being ought not to be thought without its relation to man.
>
>and this is, what Bhaskar would call, antroporealism


>>Here Heidegger is more radical. I saw him once in a documentary, wherein he
>>was asked, if his philosophical efforts had resulted in some definitive
>>knowledge. Very seldom, he answered, I have had a moment, that everything
>>seemed to fall on its place, that you could say: that's how it is, but this
>>was only for a moment and darkness moved in again.
>
>a common experience for all of us here, i quess

With the possible difference, that this is mostly lack of concentration,
whereas there the darkness would be proper to what is concerned.

But maybe Bob G.'s daughter can say more to this.

>>One could even ask, whether this clarity could be there, without the
>>darkness. (sun & shadow)
>
>once, i heard a little girl say: " . . darkness loves the light . ."

Heidegger falling back into Comte's youth-stage of mankind?

>When you mentioned Shostakovich, immediately Messiaen
>appeared in my soundscape, you must know his immensely
>poignant and wonderful "Quattuor pour le Fin du Temps",
>listen to
>
>--------- Der Engel vom Himmel ... am Ende
> schwur bei dem Lebendigen von
> Ewigkeit zu Ewigkeit:
>
> Hinfort Soll Keine Zeit Mehr Sein ---------


I hope I will hear it before *my* time is over



>[btw. there a lot of Messiaen in Cage and Feltman imho;
> is it the longing for the "Geheimnis Gottes" ?]

I heard, that when Cage wanted to hear music, he opened the window.

greeting,

Rene


-----------------------------------
drs. René de Bakker
Universiteitsbibliotheek Amsterdam
Afdeling Catalogisering Faculteiten
tel. 020-5252368


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