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+  From: Allen Scult <allen.scult@xxxxxxxxx>
+  Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 10:52:31 -0600
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Kenneth Johnson wrote:
>
>
>You know, after my last post agreeing with Gary about the intellectual
>cleanliness of keeping philosophy and religion apart, I still want to say
>that in the direction of my heartthoughts felt in the recent exchanges
>between Allan Scult and Henk van Tuijl that their manner at the face of the
>deep touches this heart softly. I've been there, in less scholarly ways
>than they of course, at the deep level, the 'not knowing' and 'yearning
>deeply' one, as when I read Tillich for example, where these are connected.
>Not as a connection to external appearances but to a _real_ yearning, one
>not dishonest since the simple reality is that we do not know existence at
>these levels, but - -
>
>Or to say, that everything is a matter of the level at which you
>contemplate it, and a conclusion made at one level of something is not the
>conclusion made at another level of this same something. I mean, for
>example, at one level, that of dealing with the appearances that appear,
>one makes judgments about these appearances, but at the level which
>_causes_ these appearances to appear, the less known level, we make another
>judgement, and one where the frailty of our most powerful tool, reason,
>pales no less than Heidegger and his clearing pales before the "place" of
>the unconceptual ground of the conceptually unclear origin of the "what
>is"; not of the what is that appears, but at that point where the
>appearance of the non-appearance of appearance appears. This is the moment
>when the pure gaze takes precedent over the pure say, those times when we
>look out at what looks in and decipher this looking as pure spirit in both
>directions, not as the transcendent spirit but the spirit we know and live
>as body and which in the end is the only spirit we really know!


Kenneth,

Nicely done ( sung)!

Now for a question asked in the over-essentialized naivete of phenomenology: Where does such language come from? How is it joined with the experience it describes? What does it mean to
write such language with pleasure ? To read it with pleasure?

Let me begin. Such writing comes out of the embodied spirit of the phenomenon of the gods, a
phenomenon which shows itself in the writing of certain words through the pleasure taken
in the writing, reading and thinking of such words. Why those words? Why this
body? As you say, it's the only spirit we really know, embodied in the body
in which we live. As I ended a post elsewhere,

Thank God for phenomenology!

Allen

Allen Scult
515 271 2869
Website: "Heidegger on Rhetoric and Hermeneutics"
http://www.mac.drake.edu/s/scult/scult.html
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