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On Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:21:53 -0700 (PDT) "P. Johnston"
<smirglehoffeth@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
> Moreover, any original of the Gospels in the
> "copula-less Aramaic" if perchance it *did* exist
> would stand no greater claim to canonicity than the
> Greek NT. Just because a given text is earlier does
> not mean it is or should be the authoritative text for
> some religious tradition or that theological
> understandings ought to be changed to reflect a new
> understanding of the textual "original". Tradition
> has a certain legitimate weight.
Absolutely. Yet much ado has been made, in recent years, over the
Peshitta, i.e., the Syriac version of the Old and New Testaments. Since
Syriac is a sister language of Aramaic, certain scholars have seen the
possibility of back-translating and arriving at a more or less accurate
rendering of Jesus' actual words to his disciples, who were all
Aramaic-speaking individuals, with Koine Greek as their secondary
language. The oldest manuscript of the NT Peshitta dates back to 160 CE;
however, this version did not gain authority until ca. 400, when it was
revised, on the basis of the Greek texts, and adopted as the canonical
version by the Syrian Orthodox Church. Clearly, the tradition had
already come to be based firmly upon the Greek, which is, of course, the
language in which the Evangelists, Paul, and the other writers of the NT
originally composed their work.
> The extreme form of this argument would insist that
> since it's the Clementine Vulgate that's canonical
> (and not the Greek NT or an Aramaic NT), and the
> Clementine Vulgate reads "hoc *est* corpus meum," then
> it oughtn't to matter if Jesus himself said otherwise!
There is clearly a Western bias here. The Vulgate is only canonical for
the Roman Catholic Church. The Eastern Orthodox Churches use the Greek
"Textus Receptus."
Regards,
Edward
Edward Moore
St. Athanasius Academy of Orthodox Theology
Home:
http://www.saaot.edu
Septuagint Translation Project:
http://www.lxx.org
Email. proteus28@xxxxxxxx Fax. 1 810 454 1893
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<DIV>Regards,</DIV>
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<DIV>Edward</DIV>
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