Re: Melville's hangman retour

>> Rene schreef:
>>>Meanwhile Heidegger gained insight in the deeply founded and
>>>all-encompassing power of nihilism/metaphysics. Somewhere
>>>in the Nietzsche lectures is the statement that the metaphysical
>>>formulation of its question: what is the Being of beings, seems
>>>innocent, but some day, a couple of thousands years -great years! -
>>>later, the results become apparent, but of course not their cause.
>>>And suddenly one is in a snake circle, out of which no old god can save you.
>>>And of course also not over after 1945, and also not after the
>>>destruction of Iraq. That's why I say that metaphysics is not
>>>in a book, it is here and now, and annihilating the possible wonder
>>>of a blue world, of which nobody really knows anything, as it annihiltates
>>>the possible wonder about ourselves, we strange beings, that are the
>>>arena of the world happening, but use our ability to see only to look
>>>television, and throw away our lives, without even realizing, that it
>>>might be something completely else than what we see and learn (as)
>>>everyday.

for me the above is both the richest and most compactly expressed thinking
ever to appear on this list.

"we strange beings" indeed!! and yes - we _are_ the world, that place where
a "possible wonder about ourselves" is still, I think, possible, inside
this "arena" where happenings keep happening and where we point our foot a
step forward now and again in order to try to "exteriorize ourselves to
ourselves" and to quit being so intensely interior all the time, so
intensively interiorized that the creator of this interiority, which was
the logos, now so inundates consciousness that it "believes" the
literalness of the logos alone is the all-encompassing, but where the real
fact of the matter is rather that the logos is only a tool, a tool of what?
of X! of that which needs no "say" in order for it to be what it is behind
the "to be" and the "is" - - -

>>>But please note: I am not *against* this.
>>>But please also note, that you are inside it, and not over against.

>>>rene

      Melville: On Metaphysics

>> And perhaps after all, there is no secret. We incline to think that the
>>Problem of the Universe is like the Freemason's mighty secret, so terrible
>>to all children. It turns out, at last, to consist in a triangle, a mallet,
>>and an apron, -- nothing more! We incline to think that God cannot explain
>>His own secrets, and that He would like a little more information upon
>>certain points Himself. We mortals astonish Him as much as He us. --Letter
>>to Nathaniel Hawthorne, 1851





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