Bob and Jan,
It's very easy to test whether you are motivated in this matter by a true
consideration of a diversity of sources, or whether one is being blinded by
OTHER considerations that have less to do with being anti-war and more to do
with being anti-capitalist. Just ask yourself three simple questions.
1. Did I protest as strongly when President Clinton bombed Bhagdad in 1998?
2. Did I protest as strongly when the US intervened in Serbia?
3. Would I have protested as strongly against France if she had
PRE-EMPTIVELY attacked when Hitler first entered the Rhineland?
If you can honestly answer Yes to all three questions, then your motivation
concerning the current conflict in Iraq is honestly anti-war.
Anthony Crifasi
>Hi Jan,
>
>I'm really not interested in getting into a battle of opinions with anyone.
>Yours points are well taken however. Let me just say that some of these
>posts are sorta like hearing Iraq's information minister, Mohammed Said
>Sahaf, give his daily,,, uh,, errr, skit.
>
>Certainly the U.S. is responsible for it's share of mistakes,
>miscalculations and self-interest, but posts like this quiz that our
>Canadian friend posts. About as far out've context as is possible. How much
>of the UN's costs do we bankroll? ...what kinda situation would a world
>court really create for us? ....my dear John, I hope you realize how you
>come across.
>
>Bob
>
>PS-how much time have you spent in the U.S. Jan? ...i've done my share of
>protesting in bygone years and certainly entertain what the "anti" side has
>to say....probably because freedom of speech is readily experienced in my
>world.
>
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>Hi Bob, you wrote:
>
> >Somehow I get the impression that you get your view of the world from
> >Al-Jazeera.
>
>Somehow i find this remark unfair, unless you think that f.i. Celan,
>Levinas, Blanchot, the Sophists, Wallerstein and others which i
>called upon in my postings of the last couple of weeks, are all part
>of Al-Jazeera's network too.
>
>Oh yeh, sure, i visit the Al-Jazeera website regularly, as i do visit
>Asian sites, Israelian sites, Palestinian Sites, British sites, and
>Russian,
>German, Frence and a lot of US sites (the wonders of cyberspace :-).
>To get some understanding (view) of our complex and fragmentating
>world, i try to access an as broad as personally possible (but of course
>inevitably biased) spectrum of information sources. To find some truth
>one has to filter out the lies and propaganda. This process of filtering
>(decontamination in Rene's words) works best imho when different
>accounts from different perspectives are compared with and layered
>on each other. And further, personal experiences of travelling and
>visiting have a lot of truth to offer. So maybe it's true that i'm a bit
>'Arab/Islam biased' at the moment, but i hold the Arab/Islam world
>quite dear. Over the years have travelled through Morocco, Algeria,
>Niger, Tunesia, Egypt, Turkey and these journeys made me appreciate
>this people and their culture very much. [And don't tell me about their
>regimes, i know enough of that, i've lived in the locale, stayed at the
>homes of students, farmers, musicians and teachers.] What biases me
>is that somehow i know and feel how most of them are feeling and
>thinking of this war in Iraq, namely, very angry and humiliated.
>It makes me sad, this war was not neccesary.
>
>yours,
>Jan
>
>ps. afaik Ahmed has no connections with Al-Jaz, and neither are they
>specifically mentioned in the book. Yet Bob, what is your view of his
>chapters 4 and 5 on 9/11, OK you can reject all his speculations, but
>still we're left with a host of unanswered questions don't you think ?
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