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+  From: "Bakker, R.B.M. de" <R.B.M.deBakker@xxxxxx>
+  Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:06:26 +0200
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-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Bakker, R.B.M. de
Verzonden: vr 3-10-2003 18:21
Aan: heidegger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Onderwerp: RE: A Taster





-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Stuart Elden [mailto:stuartelden@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Verzonden: donderdag 2 oktober 2003 20:27
Aan: heidegger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Onderwerp: RE: A Taster

The notion of association, of being-with, is something we've discussed
before. In some respects - i.e. the reading of Physics IV in GA19 Plato's
Sophist - he offers some very useful pointers, but politically it's deeply
problematic. I fear that this paper doesn't avoid Rene's point about the
ontological foundation, but in a sense that is Heidegger's precise problem:
that he thought he could move from philosophy to politics.



Precisely! Here, from another ankle, we arrive at the metaphysics that

is still virulent (incorporated in the terminology) in early Heidegger.

The discussions with Ariosto, Gary Moore, and, more intensively,

Anthony Crifasi, helped me to clear, what gegenwendige, ambigious

moves, forward, backward, are at play, till in 1929 he finds a lasting trail:

Grundstimmung and the nothing. Here the relation to metaphysics, which

has its own versions of an explanation of the Nothing, namely that lastly

it is nothing (the null-nothing) is opened. It is THIS nothing that now,

in its all-pervading power can be, is to be met, now and here, in Stimmung.

All-envading nothingness, sinking away of everything, and but

so: opening beings-as-as-whole.

In short (but don't rush): He manages to change his position, to

get into a relation with something one is already in. Thus he speaks

of metaphysics as an event in the dephts of Dasein. (GA29/30)

And now Nietzsche has an entrance. And that means the whole

of metaphysics, of which Nietzsche is the apparent completer.



----- But what does this mean politically? That he wanted to

take a share and a leading, 'geistliche' leadership, but the polis should

be a work of its own, as the work of art. We can hardly name that

political philosophy. Sorry, i think there's no political philosophy really.

Just preparation and disciplination for something serious. Manly too yes,

not the faggotism of today. Nietzsche saw this well: the eternal-feminin

pulls us ... down." Yesterday evening i saw on BBC a bitch cum laude,

cacking unbearably, being applauded by friendly distinguished gentlemen.

Eerie. I go by train and hear what people say. The bitches scream their

private lives into the coupe's. To Arabs we're really shit. A woman said:

if you give money to a westerling, you can spit on it as much as you like,

he'll take it.' Thank you, you're right.

"Money is what makes a man act funny" - Eminem.



Where did i go?..... still there?... Stuart?





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