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+  From: "Bakker, R.B.M. de" <R.B.M.deBakker@xxxxxx>
+  Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:42:09 +0200


-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Michael Eldred [mailto:artefact@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Verzonden: maandag 6 oktober 2003 17:53
Aan: heidegger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Onderwerp: Re: the gaze of the other


Cologne 06-Oct-2003

"Bakker, R.B.M. de" schrieb Mon, 6 Oct 2003 01:08:51 +0200 (working at night for a change):

>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Anthony Crifasi [mailto:crifasi@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Verzonden: zo 5-10-2003 22:58
> Aan: heidegger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> CC:
> Onderwerp: Re: FW: the gaze of the other
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> Rene de Bakker wrote:
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> > Personally, i'd rather meet an armed Jud than an armed Anthony.
> >
> > The UN resolution driven iron one way track is perfect in itself:
> >
> > "I shoot." No chance. Jud first hits you with his capslocks - i
> >
> > find them so cute - but he still got care for his opponent. We're
> >
> > going to have an old Irish whiskey.
> >
> > OldEurope (Celts) - New Europe (?) 1-0
>
> Forwarded from my Celt girlfriend:
> Guinness is better, and the score you cite here is from a game that occurred
> 100 years ago.
>
> Anthony Crifasi
>
>
>
> RdB: Pleased to meet her! There are more bitc.. sorry ladies than once supposed here.
>
> She sure sounds exciting. What does she think of Dr Eldred's publication:
>
> accepted in: "Heidegger territory", number and year unknown to me:
>
> "Hardly standing"?
>
> Can i have a last cigarette?

So you have understood something, after all,

Incredibly funny, Michael.


despite all Widerwille/revulsion. Don't forget: Heidegger is something to be gotten over (verwunden) after a bout of over-indulgence.

But now your tones are getting even more apocalyptic ("We're going like cattle to the slaughterhouse, and nobody wants to see it. "). Such revelation is not phenomenological. Phenomenology is much
quieter, almost nothing, really -- scarcely present, barely still standing.

A phenomenology that justifies the actual raging furor (Fuehrer..) is most certainly vampire phenomenology.
You got it all precisely turned upside down. That's why i recommend to you conversations with other vampires:
it's easier to detect in the other.

I chose the words 'slaughterhouse' and cattle deliberately.

- I was thinking of things that should not be left out in our current situation: Slaughterhouse 5 - but then you also
missed k 9- Dresden therefore, still burning, it'll never stop. Also not when the 2 new victorious towers, Jewish or Chinese, as i rightly foresaw, anyway an ANONYMOUS might. It is clear that for Heidegger, as for Orwell, WE are the danger, but we keep on running away, to Auschwitz, Iraq, or George Elliot, 't is indifferent. Instead of protecting the vulnerable, you, like Jud, like Anthony bring them as evidence into the slaughterhouse.
- Cattle and slaughterhouse also remind of the animal holocausts, the Frevel an der Erde that also bleeds on every
day again. I remember a slaughterhouse from Jan .... Chicago, wasn't it? Also John Foster is one of the few not to
live with eyes closed.
- The heavyweight issue behind that and runnung those deadhouses: the disturbed relation between man and animal.
If man does not care about his humanity, he must get beastly. A quick look in GA46 confirms the importance of
this inevitability.
- The same that were driven into slaughterhouses from 1941 on, now are creating new, even bigger ones. Contamination
is the big hidden parasite of fear and homelessness.
- If the gaze of the animal, is not met, also the gaze of the other is evaded on beforehand. the rest is just the
shit of the other: Jud accepting excuses, that are not meant for him really, and still all the blood on his lips.
THAT is what shows, Michael. Phenomenology is not naive realism. A residue of marxism, your best thinking sofar?


was a delightful interchange of influence in their eyes, and what they said had that superfluity of meaning for them, which is observable with some sense of flatness by a third person. ...
Even the points it [the gossamer web of young love-making] clings to - the things whence its subtle interlacings are scarcely perceptible; momentary touches of finger-tips, meetings of rays from
blue and dark orbs, unfinished phrases, lightest changes of cheek and lip, faintest tremors." (George Eliot, Middlemarch Chaps. 27, 36)

More in my lectures at http://www.mitdasein.com

I say what i say every day here. Can't you do it once?

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> rene
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> Ajax-Celtic 2-0 (1975)
>

i say Irish, and they say: we're better. We're the best. But one cannot get away with it, i know this
too well now, in fact it is not innocent, it's really horrible. David Lynch! Entartete Kunst!





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