Cologne 07-Oct-2003
"Bakker, R.B.M. de" schrieb Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:42:09 +0200:
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> Van: Michael Eldred [
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> Verzonden: maandag 6 oktober 2003 17:53
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> Onderwerp: Re: the gaze of the other
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> Cologne 06-Oct-2003
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> "Bakker, R.B.M. de" schrieb Mon, 6 Oct 2003 01:08:51 +0200 (working at night for a change):
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> > Van: Anthony Crifasi [
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> > Verzonden: zo 5-10-2003 22:58
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> > CC:
> > Onderwerp: Re: FW: the gaze of the other
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> > Rene de Bakker wrote:
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> > > Personally, i'd rather meet an armed Jud than an armed Anthony.
> > >
> > > The UN resolution driven iron one way track is perfect in itself:
> > >
> > > "I shoot." No chance. Jud first hits you with his capslocks - i
> > >
> > > find them so cute - but he still got care for his opponent. We're
> > >
> > > going to have an old Irish whiskey.
> > >
> > > OldEurope (Celts) - New Europe (?) 1-0
> >
> > Forwarded from my Celt girlfriend:
> > Guinness is better, and the score you cite here is from a game that occurred
> > 100 years ago.
> >
> > Anthony Crifasi
> >
> >
> >
> > RdB: Pleased to meet her! There are more bitc.. sorry ladies than once supposed here.
> >
> > She sure sounds exciting. What does she think of Dr Eldred's publication:
> >
> > accepted in: "Heidegger territory", number and year unknown to me:
> >
> > "Hardly standing"?
> >
> > Can i have a last cigarette?
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> ME: So you have understood something, after all,
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> RdB: Incredibly funny, Michael.
>
> despite all Widerwille/revulsion. Don't forget: Heidegger is something to be gotten over (verwunden) after a bout of over-indulgence.
>
> But now your tones are getting even more apocalyptic ("We're going like cattle to the slaughterhouse, and nobody wants to see it. "). Such revelation is not phenomenological. Phenomenology is much
> quieter, almost nothing, really -- scarcely present, barely still standing.
>
> A phenomenology that justifies the actual raging furor (Fuehrer..) is most certainly vampire phenomenology.
> You got it all precisely turned upside down. That's why i recommend to you conversations with other vampires:
> it's easier to detect in the other.
>
> I chose the words 'slaughterhouse' and cattle deliberately.
>
> - I was thinking of things that should not be left out in our current situation: Slaughterhouse 5 - but then you also
> missed k 9- Dresden therefore, still burning, it'll never stop. Also not when the 2 new victorious towers, Jewish or Chinese, as i rightly foresaw, anyway an ANONYMOUS might. It is clear that for Heidegger, as for Orwell, WE are the danger, but we keep on running away, to Auschwitz, Iraq, or George Elliot, 't is indifferent. Instead of protecting the vulnerable, you, like Jud, like Anthony bring them as evidence into the slaughterhouse.
> - Cattle and slaughterhouse also remind of the animal holocausts, the Frevel an der Erde that also bleeds on every
> day again. I remember a slaughterhouse from Jan .... Chicago, wasn't it? Also John Foster is one of the few not to
> live with eyes closed.
> - The heavyweight issue behind that and runnung those deadhouses: the disturbed relation between man and animal.
> If man does not care about his humanity, he must get beastly. A quick look in GA46 confirms the importance of
> this inevitability.
> - The same that were driven into slaughterhouses from 1941 on, now are creating new, even bigger ones. Contamination
> is the big hidden parasite of fear and homelessness.
> - If the gaze of the animal, is not met, also the gaze of the other is evaded on beforehand. the rest is just the
> shit of the other: Jud accepting excuses, that are not meant for him really, and still all the blood on his lips.
> THAT is what shows, Michael. Phenomenology is not naive realism. A residue of marxism, your best thinking sofar?
I can assure you that I have just as much contempt for you. Your abysmal ignorance and arrogance are quite astounding (my intellectual conscience would forbid me such stupidity). Merely a mouthpiece for thinking that has degraded into worldview. Stuck to the Heidegger/E.Juenger regurgitation machine like super-glue, posing in the prophet pose of grand exhortation and historical diagnosis, citing the master ad nauseum without admixture of any thought
of your own. You could just as well be a Marxist. You must never have been moved by a genuine philosophical question in all your life. Instead you have found your orientation figures to whom you cling unquestionably.
But it's the usual thing, and you are not exceptional, just exceptionally arrogant and exceptionally ignorant From the Marxists I get the converse shit, just have to change the sign from plus to minus or v.v -- including the grand historical pronouncements. It's quite funny.
So I must have been doing something right, leaving the fold of believers way behind who have found their respective totalizing ideological homes.
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> was a delightful interchange of influence in their eyes, and what they said had that superfluity of meaning for them, which is observable with some sense of flatness by a third person. ...
> Even the points it [the gossamer web of young love-making] clings to - the things whence its subtle interlacings are scarcely perceptible; momentary touches of finger-tips, meetings of rays from blue and dark orbs, unfinished phrases, lightest changes of cheek and lip, faintest tremors." (George Eliot, Middlemarch Chaps. 27, 36)
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> More in my lectures at
http://www.mitdasein.com
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> I say what i say every day here. Can't you do it once?
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> By artefact text and translation from rene
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> >
> > rene
> >
> > Ajax-Celtic 2-0 (1975)
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> i say Irish, and they say: we're better. We're the best. But one cannot get away with it, i know this
> too well now, in fact it is not innocent, it's really horrible. David Lynch! Entartete Kunst!
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