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+  From: "Bakker, R.B.M. de" <R.B.M.deBakker@xxxxxx>
+  Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:56:40 +0200

> I chose the words 'slaughterhouse' and cattle deliberately.
>
> - I was thinking of things that should not be left out in our current situation: Slaughterhouse 5 - but then you also
> missed k 9- Dresden therefore, still burning, it'll never stop. Also not when the 2 new victorious towers, Jewish or Chinese, as i rightly foresaw, anyway an ANONYMOUS might. It is clear that for Heidegger, as for Orwell, WE are the danger, but we keep on running away, to Auschwitz, Iraq, or George Elliot, 't is indifferent. Instead of protecting the vulnerable, you, like Jud, like Anthony bring them as evidence into the slaughterhouse.
> - Cattle and slaughterhouse also remind of the animal holocausts, the Frevel an der Erde that also bleeds on every
> day again. I remember a slaughterhouse from Jan .... Chicago, wasn't it? Also John Foster is one of the few not to
> live with eyes closed.
> - The heavyweight issue behind that and runnung those deadhouses: the disturbed relation between man and animal.
> If man does not care about his humanity, he must get beastly. A quick look in GA46 confirms the importance of
> this inevitability.
> - The same that were driven into slaughterhouses from 1941 on, now are creating new, even bigger ones. Contamination
> is the big hidden parasite of fear and homelessness.
> - If the gaze of the animal, is not met, also the gaze of the other is evaded on beforehand. the rest is just the
> shit of the other: Jud accepting excuses, that are not meant for him really, and still all the blood on his lips.
> THAT is what shows, Michael. Phenomenology is not naive realism. A residue of marxism, your best thinking sofar?

I can assure you that I have just as much contempt for you.

I don't have contempt for you. Only you must be crazy, when that is your conclusion. I have merely explained
about slaughterhouse and cattle. There was more to it, than when you first thought: now i've got him, no?


Your abysmal ignorance and arrogance are quite astounding (my intellectual conscience would forbid me such stupidity). Merely a mouthpiece for thinking that has degraded into worldview. Stuck to the Heidegger/E.Juenger regurgitation machine like super-glue, posing in the prophet pose of grand exhortation and historical diagnosis, citing the master ad nauseum without admixture of any thought of your own. You could just as well be a Marxist. You must never have been moved by a genuine philosophical question in all your life. Instead you have found your orientation figures to whom you cling unquestionably.

But it's the usual thing, and you are not exceptional, just exceptionally arrogant and exceptionally ignorant From the Marxists I get the converse shit, just have to change the sign from plus to minus or v.v -- including the grand historical pronouncements. It's quite funny.

So I must have been doing something right, leaving the fold of believers way behind who have found their respective totalizing ideological homes.


Against ignorance and arrogance there are weapons. You think that your position does not need
dialogue, but it's only in dialogue that they are met. Now *this* is contemptible, staying away
from the others. I speak with children (by preference), of my friend's school, when they pass
by, and the friends of my children: Father is making money, mother ensours. It's everywhere.
That is nihilism. When nihilism is a power, it must be met where it can be experienced.

So i can live with the thought that i'm despised by you.
Can you live with the fact, that, despite everything, i do not despise you?

rene


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