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+  From: "Bakker, R.B.M. de" <R.B.M.deBakker@xxxxxx>
+  Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 11:58:24 +0200


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[mailto:owner-heidegger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]Namens michaelP
Verzonden: donderdag 16 oktober 2003 16:33
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Onderwerp: Re: widerwille and langeweile (WW and LW)


on 16/10/03 2:10 pm, Bakker, R.B.M. de at R.B.M.deBakker@xxxxxx wrote:

> but there is no escaping from the Gestimmtheit,
> the attunement that not only concerns us, but also, and maybe
> even more so, the things around us.

So, is boredom not so much an unconcern for the things but a kind of concern
that renders every thing equally remote (and near)? Only nothing stands out?
Are we then in touch with the abyss we are always falling into (this time
without resistance)?

regards

mP


Michael,
rather the other way around, the way we don't want, because it
is against us. Not we, as subjects, make things indifferent.
(Do we want to draw the consequences of the death of the subject?)
Things themselves remain indifferent. When we are a thing
amidst things - and now we always already are - we fall into
the same indifference. WITHIN it you can tell any story you like,
it's indifferent, exchangeable.

It is therefore necessary to get into view the indifference of the
indifferent (the nearest of the near). It is stimmungsmaessig, in the
way of mood, feeling. Only this points to Dasein, the rest is a
taling about. The stories *within* subjectivism/nihilism don't reach
the sphere of Dasein.

But we want to tell and read stories, it's the only Zeitvertreib, recreation.
Heidegger, however, names Sprachlosigkeit, speechlessness, as a 'place' where
the nothing is housed. But who wants his throat bonded by speechlessness?

regards

rene






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