In a message dated 07/01/2004 14:07:29 GMT Standard Time,
michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> Subj:Re: Daseinen des Führers im schwarzen Gewand
> Date:07/01/2004 14:07:29 GMT Standard Time
> Fro
>
> Michael hisses:
Robin, or Whoever, in what sense (detail and reasons please) is one
> interested in Heidegger's thinking a member of a "cult"? Whoever said,
> dictated that it is an "article of faith" to discuss matters philosophical,
> "slowly"? Surely, it is just thoughtful, civilised and considerate to do
> so...; and who said that discussing philosophical matters slowly, quietly
> and profoundly (where possible) is anything "religious"?
Jud:
Your predictable response perfectly confirms Robin's prudent analysis [and
mine] that for most [not all] an adherence to Heideggerianism is to be a member
of a cult - to suffer from a mental aberration, to be a member of a lunatic
fringe, an equivalent of the more rabid Jehovah's Witnesses or the
happy-clappy 'born again Christians. It demonstrates that it is impossible to have a
mature sensible conversation with most Heideggerians [not all] for any dissent
from the holy commandments results in a torrent of flapping wings and extended
claws and harpyish screaming more in keeping with bickering malicious
fierce-tempered fishwives or jealous queens in a scratching match. I see the
allusion to the 'feminine' in Heidegger clearly now.
You keep on insisting with a straight face that Heidegger's tripe is
'philosophy' - it is NOT philosophy - it is cheapjack psychology and sociology manque
mouthed in an excruciating kiddy-style vernacular of its own, which
Heidegger probably picked up in the playgrond at junior school or in the back
streets of Messskirche as a child. It is the very Heidy-Kiddy-Speak itself which is
the spell that you are under and the key to your delusional entrapment. No
wonder Heidegger ended up in a mental clinic. It is a meaningless, childish,
escapist argot a philosophical back-slang.
Michael:
> consider what happens when such considerations are ignored:
> inconsiderateness, quick fixes, tabloidal headlining passing for thinking,
> jumping in without due thought and care for those with whom one discusses
> presumably important matters, no sense of the dialectical playfulness of the
> aporia, of the gradually unfolding of things otherwise unseen,
Jud:
There is no 'aporia' it's all in your head. Aporia is not a place of
'Playfulness, ' for to be entangled in the undergrowth of ignorance like you is
to be in the tousle of unknowingness.
These are NOT 'important matters' - it's all in your head.
There is no 'gradual unfolding of things otherwise unseen,' for there are
no 'things'
to see and be 'unfolded.' these fictions of 'Being' and Gestell' and
'Dasein' are just Heidegger's 'Let's Pretend' fantasies - and 'Let's pretend'
belongs to tales of myth and fiction - not to serious philosophy.
Heideggerianism is a joke philosophy - a laughing stock.
>
> Michael:
bad-mannered display of punch-lined swapping of opinion and already held
> dogmata; certainly nothing philosophical.
>
> Jud:
YOU are the most bad mannered person on this list - by any measurement you
care to employ.
> Have a look at your record in the archives. Your petulance and camp
> pretences at queenish outrage is amusing to observe.
>
Michael:
> critiques (ones based upon a thorough
> displayable understanding of what is
> critiqued), but obnoxious ridiculing piss-takes: go back to kindergarten,
> where it belongs and should remain.
Jud:
I have done an expose of the humourous fantasies of the 'Ontological
difference, ' and patiently explained the mechanism and sheer fatuousness of the
Dasein
trick based upon a thorough displayable understanding of Heidegger's most
profound misunderstanding of BE - but it is an understanding way outside your
ability to attain. But that is YOUR fault not mine.
Michael:
> Robin, all this (your contribution, that is, that Jud chose to reveal,
> rather than speak concerning the challenge I presented to him,
Jud:
I am QUITE capable of responding to any of the venomous vitriol and
sulphuric swearing and gutter language your care to cast at me.
It is just that Robin's piece hit the nail fairly and squarely on the head
and is so well written too.
> some vestige of thinking, not just blind hatred) is shameful
> total gobshite!
> Go dump some where else, please, if this is *all* you can manage.
Jud:
I take it you are referring to the outraged female Heideggerian lecturer at
Robins university here? Most ungentlemanly of you don't you think? So much for
your pleas to others to be thoughtful, civilised and considerate.
Keep up the good work of manure-spreading, and please keep it coming
strong and hard - for you seem intent on denigrating Heideggerianism by example.
Out of the mouths of babes...
With friends like you to promote and defend his doctrines the Philosopher of
Nazism Heidegger needs no enemies. ;-)
Cheers,
Jud. [Awaiting the predictable deluge of filth, obscentity and Heideggerian
bile.]
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