In a message dated 16/01/2004 07:22:46 GMT Standard Time,
> Subj:Re: Nietzsche/Nazism - justice as salvation
> Date:16/01/2004 07:22:46 GMT Standard Time
> From: michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (michaelP)
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> on 15/1/04 11:48 pm, GEVANS613@xxxxxxx at GEVANS613@xxxxxxx wrote:
> > Nothing exists which does not exist. All else is human talk [activity of
> > human brains] ABOUT that which exists in the form of conjecture and the
> > attribution of human judgements as to the manner in which that which exists
> > is
> > perceived by humans to exist.
> ... Like the above statement (a human speech/conjecture concerning that
> which exists)?
No - NOT like that at all, there is nothing conjectural concerning the fact
that that which exists is existing rather than not existing. There is no
need for any of Heidegger's metaphysical mumbo-jumbo on this matter, and we and
the rest of humanity could babble away for the next thirty-million years and it
would not make one jot of difference concerning the incontrovertible fact
that nothing exists which does not exist. And now you have entered yourself into
the ontological tournament you make tie Heidegger's scarf to your lance-tip,
mount your raddled reificational Rocinante and prove to me and to the world
in general that that which exists does not really exist.
Let's start with say...the Nelson Column in London. The floor is now yours
Michael - prove to us all that in fact it doesn't exist, and the traffic have
no need at all to avoid it by obeying the traffic rules and circulating around
it, but could - if they wished drive straight through it - for it doesn't
really exist. I feel sure that the majority of Londoners would be very grateful
for this information, and it might be a good idea if you also wrote to the
mayor Ken Livingstone and let him know too, for he may well be interested in
erecting a suitable statue of Tony Blair in the available space in view of the
fact that the Prime Minister has welcomed Ken back into the Labour Party? That
would be a good start for you, and after that you could begin to explain how
you are sending messages to this list if in fact you and the PC in front of
you, and me and mine before me - don't exist, and all the other non-existing
members of this discussion group are reading our words on non-existent screens
with non-existent eyes?
I'm waiting anxiously, for your ontological 'situation statement,' for I am
due to drive to Southport in half an hour, and you have made me wonder if in
fact my car actually exists, and that perhaps my wife and I will glide like
mobile, occidental Indian fakirs down the left-hand sides of the roads of south
Lancashire unsupported by any car seats, or cocooned in the protective metal
carapace of our car - like we are riding upon some magic carpet. ;-)
Jud Evans - ANALYTICAL INDICANT THEORY.
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