Verzonden: maandag 26 april 2004 19:17
Onderwerp: RE: "We're Changing the World"
Rene de Bakker wrote:
> Hitler talking about Europe usually aroused a lot of enthousiasm, not
> with Churchill. What's worrying me - the last phase of worry,
> with certainty - is the naivite with which terms are used to convince
> democratically and electronically organized masses, and the ease with
> it is done: they are highly explosive. You are no dynamite, Anthony,
> Nietzsche, you're just that little boy carrying the ammunition.
I suppose you would have given the same analysis in the infancy of the
Japanese democracy after WWII. As if dynamite had never been properly used.
> So that Heidegger seemed very right in the fifties, when he said that
> had become too prudent to use violence. The democratic masses now
> give in, so that only the others, the different get the enfer.
> After which, as in the case of Japan - Japan is dead, like everything
>is dead -
> they speak of 'succesful democracies'.
"Everything"? I thought Walmart and other such were historically centered
loci of Gestell, not "everything". Now you sound like I did.
Indeed everything. I never said otherwise. Metaphysics is the theory of
everything. Nihilism - the 'essence', or at least: the ruling result of
metaphysics, concerns indeed everything. Not because i say so, and also
not because Heidegger says so, but because it is the basic happening of
everything and for everyone.
(or you agree with Bob Scheetz, who thinks this is essentialism)
Botho Strauss writes about Japanese movies, but i fear that Heidegger is
right in his conversation with a Japanese, that film is the destroying in
itself (so that its only real subject is destruction - also, and mostly
so, in love movies)
But in any case, Imperial Japan was better? Just being clear about the world
you are proposing.
Ah, them bombs and bullits start itching?
Have you ever applied the possibility-actuality distinction to technology?
That the possible *demands* actualization? And that it *demands* the
Menschentum, the type of man, that without questions performs what is
But who explains this, is blamed. By so-called 'philosophers'.
Meanwhile, the Gestalt of the worker is far more real than individuals
that constitute masses. They are only TOLD that they are important: so
that they go on believing and thanking that they are believing something,
without which life can't go on. To them is told: the OTHERS are the
nihilists, and your cattle beliefs distinguish you from them. But truly
WE are the nihilists, and the last human is theirs. It's perfect nihilism:
there's no possibility to discover, and the departments of philosophy
as the terrorist nets of fundamentalist nihilism, deal with the doubts left.
It's you that need Japans and Iraq's, to be 'better'. What is 'good', when
you use the word 'better'?
Japanese are clearly not themselves nowadays. Only Westerners are. And
you are the best, they are the best in not being something, in not having
origin, in "freedom".
> But there are simple limits: Hitler could not conquer Europe, the US is
> to rule the world by force. It cannot be done, there are still too many
> over my dead body, and they're stronger than us civilized faggots.
> think they're fighting for their own interest, will find out about the
> that is going on. They may very well suddenly become victims
Or they'll find out that - well, it was their own interest all along.
You 'forgot' the rest of the world again. The 'other side', they're there
in your blind edge.
As said: metaphysics and technology concern, dissolve everyone, the whole
world - *there's* America's responsibility, all the rest, the power, the
riches, is nothing.
We have, are had by, a Geschick, writes Heidegger. Sticking to metaphysical
and technological solutions, only make it worse. Walmart is not nihilism,
only the being of Dasein (BT) can be nihilism - the selfnegating and cowardly
running away it performs, *is* nihilism. (it is not a noun).
That's why i point to nihilism in the depths of Dasein, as Heidegger did
already almost hundred years ago. It's a lifeline. Everything else, all
practices must be dying, when Dasein 'is' not.
> And of course, if you already use Jesus for your nihilism, why not use
When did I bring up Jesus?
YOU're the Christian. YOU leave him out. Why do you always send what is
up to you, to the other? Why must the Iraqians pay your taxes?
YOU have turned this religion into a fundamentalist warmachine, and but now
I am crazy when i read Jesus saying that deep down there's no reason to worry
or to be afraid?
You're projecting your own phobias.
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