Cologne, 12 February 199
> I'm want to know if you your choice of "place" in reference to consciousness
> in Husserl is the word you want to use as I believe Husserl did not think
> of consciousness as a place. It is this difficulty which leads to a great
> deal of trouble in understanding Husserl as it is very difficult to
> conceptualize the Husserlian consciousness without a "substantial"
> reference and yet clearly Husserl is very cleaar that there is no material
> reference for the objects of consciousness. So I'm wondering how you
> would describe that problem without using "place"?
Greg, I don't think the word 'place' has to be avoided at all costs, but that it
has to be thought appropriately. 'Place' as place where objects are constituted
for the subject is not a 'material substance' existing in space, but a
metaphysical point of gathering where the representations of the object appear
to the subject. I.e. it is not the being itself which shows itself, but the
object is brought forward (vorgestellt) by the subject to stand before it in the
subject's consciousness (which is the Stelle, or place, for the Vor-Stellung,
the 'placing before').
In German, another word for 'place' is 'Ort', which etymologically means the
point of a spear, i.e. the point in which the lines of the narrowing metal
converge, are gathered together.
> Micheal [Michael], you may have me enrolling in German classes, I admire your
ability > to work in both languages.
Thanks for the compliment. It's a good idea to enrol. I only learned German as
an adult myself. For any serious work with Heidegger, German is indispensable,
not least of all because of the parlous state of some translations of Heidegger,
e.g. 'Identity and Difference', which Henry cited on this list a couple of
months ago. But even a good translation has had to pass through the thinking of
the translator to get across from Deutsch to English, so it's invaluable to go
to horse's mouth.
Thinking is translating -- even when done in a single language, because we
always have to carry ourselves across (trans-late ourselvs) to the realm of
experience from which the language is being said.
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