From: Ariosto Raggo <df803@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:12:41 -0500 (EST)
> Mr. Bakker,
> I think this post by Ariosto was composed originally for the Bataille list
> and was forwarded to this one, perhaps in error, note 'fwd' in its title.
> They have some experimental writing projects underway there, Bataille
> based. When transposed into such a scholarly group as this, it would be
> easy to dismiss this entry as pretty crazy.
It was stir crazy alright, Kenneth. Remember I began posting here
first in response to Tom but then to bobbing bob who is so irritating
and annoying that he is getting the psychologists on the list very
concerned and not in a restless, anxious, caring way but merely in a
dismissive way. Not in a way that makes us sweat with a "nourishing
moisture" which feeds the parched and cracked language of the soul, a
desert where the stirring of the waters fosters the growth of feathers
> The spirit behind this dwell-ing piece is Bataillean, ie 'transgressive'.
> Every advance in thought is a transgression - the breaking of a tablet. I'm
> not saying Ariosto has broken any tablets with his posts to the Hiedegger
> list, only that he has forged a hammer of sorts and it remains to see if
> anything will come of it. I agree his discourse is not solidly based in
> Hiedegger, but he deserves to be on this list because herein lies a
> repository, an oversupply of extremely high and thoughtful scholars who can
> apply an appropriate rein where needed, and who nevertheless can afford the
> kilobyte or two for something that at least attempts to fly farther. If it
> annoys you, doesn't your email have a 'kill filter', or don't they work on
> list serves? I'm not that up on such things. The Nietzsche list would of
> course be a better place for him if there were scholars there, but it seems
> all those who know their Nietzsche are on other lists instead.
> Nietzsche praised the scholar and rightly so, but he also hoped that those
> philosophers who came after him would be 'attempters', and he baptized them
> with that noble title. Ariosto is not 'cocksure' about anything he
> attempts. He knows these are not new truths he is producing. They are a
> wrestling, transgressive probings that need a little forbearance and
> intelligent dialog with. Some on this list have already engaged him at that
I get my psychology from Nietzsche and the currents that come out of
the stoic tradition and its promotion of apathetic indifference. If you
want mental health, you read Seneca even if Nietzsche came down on the
traces of morality in that philosophy. To move the threads along a
little, I have been sick with a flu so I can't do too much; but it
seems to me that the notion potency even if it is not strictly to be
connected to Aristotle, in Nietzsche would be the _active will_ which
is cultivated by _active forgetting_.
Memory is an abyss Blanchot reminds us in _The Infinite Conversation_:
"... Forgetting is the primordial divinity, the venerable ancestor and
first presence the essence of memory is therefore forgetting; the
forgetfullness of which one must drink in order to die." (p.135)
compare to what Heidegger says about thinking in _What is Called Thinking_
o I do understand your vestmented irritation at this oblique force of 'The
> Thought from Outside'. If, that is, you have based your judgement on him on
> this certifiably 'crazy feather' entry without knowing its genesis. Perhaps
> there are many weeds that need hoeing in this lush Hiedegger garden,
> perhaps I'm one of them, but I think it is premature to weed this 'crazy
> feathery' one out until you have a chance to see what fruit it might bear.
> All writing consists in taking risks, even solid scholarly writing. In
> Deleuze's criteria of the task of striving after a 'thinking that reaches
> thought', both the snail and the butterfly are necessary, both are
> 'attempting' to push the window a bit more open. Sometimes it's in the
> flutterings of such wilder strains that windows or doors that were not even
> noticed by the more purely academic are revealed.
> Mr. Raggo has, for whatever personal experiences, taken his thinking
> directly to the border. Of course, many tyros, too impatient to plod along
> in the canons which take years as you know to get justly certified in, do
> this. These impatient ones are easily recognized by the wide gaps and
> serrated edges of their thinking. They find a small fissure in the canon
> and rush into it as a path to possibility. Almost all are worthless. This
> one, so far, has at least engaged and posed worthy questions.
> There is always a certain ring to engaged writing. Much of Ariosto's
> writing on the Hiedegger list has this ring.
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