From: "Edward Greig" <rdc41@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:26:54 +0100
From: Edward Greig <rdc41@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 18 May 1999 22:22
Subject: Re: the subject/object dichotomy
>From: Anthony Crifasi <crifasi@xxxxxxxxx>
>Date: 17 May 1999 21:45
>Subject: the subject/object dichotomy
>Traditionally, it was assumed that we discover beings most
>essentially while we are thinking about them or oberving them. For
>example, upon analysis we may discover beings as material
>objects made of atoms, and upon further analysis, we may
>discover beings (as you said) as mere appearances in the mind.
>Thus, it was assumed that this is what beings fundamentally are,
>because only when we conceptually analyze them and observe
>them scientifically do we truly discover what they really are.
>Heidegger turned this on its head by saying that it is when we are
>NOT thinking about beings or observing them (ie, when we are
>dealing with them or "absorbed" with them) that we discover them
>most essentially. So if Heidegger is right, then he escapes the
>pitfalls of the subject/object dichotomy, since the entire
>presentation of beings as objects appearing to a subject or as
>material objects made of atoms (or as individual substances for
>that matter) depends upon conceptual analysis of some kind.
>Rather, they are more fundamentally the way they appear when we
>are dealing with them without thinking about them or observing
>them - as equipment good for doing.
>Thank you for this. However I am still not clear :).
>What you seem to be saying is that it is when we are dealing with equipment
>as "ready-to-hand" (Zuhanden) that we discover it most essentially. However
>it appears to me that equipment is only "ready-to-hand" when there is a
>Dasein to deal with it. If the world was without Dasein there would still
>equipment but it would only be as "present-at-hand" (Vorhanden) things.
>Therefore it still needs a subject to reveal these bits of equipment or
>entities as Zuhanden and therefore there is still a subject/ object
>I suspect there is some flaw in this argument and I would be grateful if
>anyone could show me what it is.
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